Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13

[Al Morton <[e-mail]>]

Yes,  but it's also important to look at the actual terms:

>Licensing information, comments, notes, or URL for further information:
>
>Any open-source software and development activities: FREE with no 
>royalties. No explicit license with us needed unless developer 
>wishes to have one.
>
>As long as this RFC remains Experimental Track, ANY use of this 
>technology (open source or otherwise) will be free with no royalties 
>for any purpose.
>
>If track changes from EXPERIMENTAL to a standards track (not 
>expected in this RFC): Terms would be FRAND with simple and 
>reasonable annual fee, no per unit royalties.

a) is acceptable to me, the memo is Experimental...
Al

At 05:27 PM 12/3/2010, James M. Polk wrote:
>With respect, this is crazy.
>
>11 months after the WGLC for this doc the authors submit an IPR 
>statement?  This document has been a WG item since June 2006. 
>Exactly when didn't they have time to come forward with a 
>notification, say in 2007, or 2008 or 2009?
>
>James
>
>At 10:45 AM 12/3/2010, Jukka Manner wrote:
>>Dear all,
>>
>>The authors of draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel have disclosed an IPR that 
>>affects the accepted, but not yet published, NSIS document.
>>
>>We need guidance from the working group on how to proceed:
>>
>>a) Do members of the WG accept those terms,
>>b) Do you want to redesign the protocol to work around the IPR,
>>c) Do you want to ask Columbia to modify the terms, or
>>d) Do we drop the document from the WG (authors can still pursue 
>>publications through the independent track)?
>>
>>Items a) and d) let's us continue with the publication procedure 
>>(for item d) we just remove references to the work from the 
>>mobility applicability document). Items b) and c) will need 
>>considerable work and since the WG is closing, I would like to avoid them.
>>
>>Please indicate your preference within two weeks, by Friday 17th at:
>>
>>http://www.doodle.com/mb2gvfit64bnya99
>>
>>Regards,
>>Jukka
>>
>>On 12/03/2010 06:00 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote:
>>>Dear Charles Shen, Sung-Hyuck Lee, Henning Schulzrinne, Jong Bang:
>>>
>>>An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled 
>>>"NSIS Operation
>>>Over IP Tunnels" (draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel) was submitted to the 
>>>IETF Secretariat
>>>on 2010-12-02 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual Property
>>>Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1456/). The 
>>>title of the
>>>IPR disclosure is "The Trustees of Columbia University in the City 
>>>of New York's
>>>Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13."
>>>
>>>The IETF Secretariat
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