Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13

Jukka Manner <jukka.manner@tkk.fi> Sat, 04 December 2010 13:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13
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Yes, this is very unfortunate for the WG, in particular at this stage of 
the process.

Jukka

On 12/04/2010 12:27 AM, James M. Polk wrote:
> With respect, this is crazy.
>
> 11 months after the WGLC for this doc the authors submit an IPR
> statement? This document has been a WG item since June 2006. Exactly
> when didn't they have time to come forward with a notification, say in
> 2007, or 2008 or 2009?
>
> James
>
> At 10:45 AM 12/3/2010, Jukka Manner wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> The authors of draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel have disclosed an IPR that
>> affects the accepted, but not yet published, NSIS document.
>>
>> We need guidance from the working group on how to proceed:
>>
>> a) Do members of the WG accept those terms,
>> b) Do you want to redesign the protocol to work around the IPR,
>> c) Do you want to ask Columbia to modify the terms, or
>> d) Do we drop the document from the WG (authors can still pursue
>> publications through the independent track)?
>>
>> Items a) and d) let's us continue with the publication procedure (for
>> item d) we just remove references to the work from the mobility
>> applicability document). Items b) and c) will need considerable work
>> and since the WG is closing, I would like to avoid them.
>>
>> Please indicate your preference within two weeks, by Friday 17th at:
>>
>> http://www.doodle.com/mb2gvfit64bnya99
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jukka
>>
>> On 12/03/2010 06:00 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote:
>>> Dear Charles Shen, Sung-Hyuck Lee, Henning Schulzrinne, Jong Bang:
>>>
>>> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "NSIS
>>> Operation
>>> Over IP Tunnels" (draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel) was submitted to the IETF
>>> Secretariat
>>> on 2010-12-02 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual
>>> Property
>>> Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1456/). The
>>> title of the
>>> IPR disclosure is "The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of
>>> New York's
>>> Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13."
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>>>
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