Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13
Jukka Manner <jukka.manner@tkk.fi> Sat, 04 December 2010 13:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13
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Yes, this is very unfortunate for the WG, in particular at this stage of the process. Jukka On 12/04/2010 12:27 AM, James M. Polk wrote: > With respect, this is crazy. > > 11 months after the WGLC for this doc the authors submit an IPR > statement? This document has been a WG item since June 2006. Exactly > when didn't they have time to come forward with a notification, say in > 2007, or 2008 or 2009? > > James > > At 10:45 AM 12/3/2010, Jukka Manner wrote: >> Dear all, >> >> The authors of draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel have disclosed an IPR that >> affects the accepted, but not yet published, NSIS document. >> >> We need guidance from the working group on how to proceed: >> >> a) Do members of the WG accept those terms, >> b) Do you want to redesign the protocol to work around the IPR, >> c) Do you want to ask Columbia to modify the terms, or >> d) Do we drop the document from the WG (authors can still pursue >> publications through the independent track)? >> >> Items a) and d) let's us continue with the publication procedure (for >> item d) we just remove references to the work from the mobility >> applicability document). Items b) and c) will need considerable work >> and since the WG is closing, I would like to avoid them. >> >> Please indicate your preference within two weeks, by Friday 17th at: >> >> http://www.doodle.com/mb2gvfit64bnya99 >> >> Regards, >> Jukka >> >> On 12/03/2010 06:00 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote: >>> Dear Charles Shen, Sung-Hyuck Lee, Henning Schulzrinne, Jong Bang: >>> >>> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "NSIS >>> Operation >>> Over IP Tunnels" (draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel) was submitted to the IETF >>> Secretariat >>> on 2010-12-02 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of Intellectual >>> Property >>> Rights Disclosures" (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1456/). The >>> title of the >>> IPR disclosure is "The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of >>> New York's >>> Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13." >>> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> nsis mailing list >> nsis@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/nsis > -- Jukka MJ Manner, Professor, PhD. Phone: +358+(0)9+470 22481 Aalto University Mobile: +358+(0)50+5112973 Department of Communications Fax: +358+(0)9+470 22474 and Networking (Comnet) Office: G320a (Otakaari 5A) P.O. Box 13000, FIN-00076 Aalto E-mail: jukka.manner@tkk.fi Finland WWW: www.comnet.tkk.fi
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia U… IETF Secretariat
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… James M. Polk
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Al Morton
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Fred Baker
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Fred Baker
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Al Morton
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Lars Eggert
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Takako Sanda
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Lars Eggert
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… James M. Polk
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Al Morton
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Fu, Xiaoming
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Martin Stiemerling
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Lars Eggert
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Calvin Chu
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Al Morton
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Calvin Chu
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Calvin Chu
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Calvin Chu
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Calvin Chu
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Lars Eggert
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Fred Baker
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Calvin Chu
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Fred Baker
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Fred Baker
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Al Morton
- Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columb… Lars Eggert
- [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia U… IETF Secretariat
- [NSIS] WGLC: draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13 Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] WGLC: draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13 Georgios Karagiannis
- Re: [NSIS] WGLC: draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13 Roland Bless
- Re: [NSIS] WGLC: draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13 Jukka Manner
- Re: [NSIS] WGLC: draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13 Lars Eggert