Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982)

MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com> Thu, 08 November 2018 11:43 UTC

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mikkelfj commented on this pull request.



>  
-When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to zero,
+The selection process SHOULD be designed such that
+on average the spin bit is disabled for at least 1/8th of the connections, or
+1/8th of the paths when doing migrations. The random choice SHOULD be dependent
+on the address of the peer, so that the spin bit is consistently enables or
+disabled for repeated connections to the same address.
+

That won't work well in server p2p where many connections go through the same 5-tuple because either all or no traffic will get spins. It will also will not work well when a cluster of servers target the same IP using the same PRNG /hash algorithm. You need to depend on the source address as well.

I think 1/8th of CIDs would be better.

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