Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982)
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982)
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ekr commented on this pull request. > - -When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to zero, -regardless of the values received from their peer. Addendums or revisions to +fraction of connections. + +The selection process SHOULD be designed such that +on average the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths. +The random choice SHOULD be dependent +on the source and destination addresses of the path, +so that the spin bit is consistently enabled or +disabled for repeated use of the same path. + +When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to +a constant value randomly chosen to be 0 or 1, +regardless of the values received from their peer. Alternatively, endpoints MAY +change this value when changing connection ID. Addendums or revisions to > Correction: > > > this text is a PR, so it needs consensus to be added at all > > That isn't the standard we've been holding to. That will begin soon, but not yet. This was in response to Christian's claim that there was consensus to do 0/1. > As for the specific recommendation: I think that the concrete requirement is that the "spin/not" decision has to be made per-path, but the "how to not spin" decision is one best left to implementation discretion - other than perhaps recommending that the value does not leak any private information (about what is encrypted, or about what might happen on other paths for the same connection). -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/1982#discussion_r236251222
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) erickinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Loganaden Velvindron
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) erickinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) erickinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) erickinnear
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Brad Lassey
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Brad Lassey
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Brad Lassey
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Brad Lassey
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982) Martin Thomson