Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982)

ekr <notifications@github.com> Mon, 26 November 2018 13:22 UTC

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ekr commented on this pull request.



> -
-When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to zero,
-regardless of the values received from their peer. Addendums or revisions to
+fraction of connections.
+
+The selection process SHOULD be designed such that
+on average the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths.
+The random choice SHOULD be dependent
+on the source and destination addresses of the path,
+so that the spin bit is consistently enabled or
+disabled for repeated use of the same path.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to
+a constant value randomly chosen to be 0 or 1,
+regardless of the values received from their peer.  Alternatively, endpoints MAY
+change this value when changing connection ID.  Addendums or revisions to

> Correction:
> 
> > this text is a PR, so it needs consensus to be added at all
> 
> That isn't the standard we've been holding to. That will begin soon, but not yet.

This was in response to Christian's claim that there was consensus to do 0/1.

> As for the specific recommendation: I think that the concrete requirement is that the "spin/not" decision has to be made per-path, but the "how to not spin" decision is one best left to implementation discretion - other than perhaps recommending that the value does not leak any private information (about what is encrypted, or about what might happen on other paths for the same connection).



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