Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Spin per peer (#1982)

ekr <notifications@github.com> Sun, 25 November 2018 21:46 UTC

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ekr commented on this pull request.



> -
-When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to zero,
-regardless of the values received from their peer. Addendums or revisions to
+fraction of connections.
+
+The selection process SHOULD be designed such that
+on average the spin bit is disabled for at least one eighth of network paths.
+The random choice SHOULD be dependent
+on the source and destination addresses of the path,
+so that the spin bit is consistently enabled or
+disabled for repeated use of the same path.
+
+When the spin bit is disabled, endpoints SHOULD set the spin bit value to
+a constant value randomly chosen to be 0 or 1,
+regardless of the values received from their peer.  Alternatively, endpoints MAY
+change this value when changing connection ID.  Addendums or revisions to

@huitema: this text is a PR, so it needs consensus to be added at all. As for the PRNG: you can use data generated from the PNE for a previous packet. As I said, there's plenty of surplus. I don't think that @mikkelfj's point is persuasive. Nobody is telling you how to generate random data. I am merely observing that it's effectively free to do so with most implementations.

Again, I think this document should remain silent on the contents of this bit if you aren't doing spin. My position is: silent > random > the current text.




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