Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Wed, 02 March 2022 22:04 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call review of draft-iab-rfcefdp-rfced-model-11
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--On Wednesday, March 2, 2022 14:02 -0700 Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: >> If you want to retain "RFC Editor Function" (I think >> "function" in Section 1, first paragraph, is a typo), then >> "previously assigned" is not quite right. > > That text was intended to be about the responsibilities, not > the name. That makes good sense, but I read it as definitional. See below. > Do we feel that we need to (re-)define "RFC Editor Function" > in this document? (Brian mentions "various documents" but > where was it defined before?) I'm not going to spend time looking in other places, but the Abstract of RFC 4844 (copied, AFAICT, into RFC 8729) does use the term. They use lower case as "RFC Editor function", perhaps because at the time 4844 was written, we had not even separated things into Streams, much less created a whole cluster of relevant entities. Unless we want to invite "RFC Editor [Whole] Shebang", "RFC Editor [Three-Ring] Circus", or, for the negative among us "RFC Editor Mess", I think it would be very helpful if, early on, you said something like 'the entire collection of organizations and functions that bear on this model and getting RFCs produced is known as the "RFC Editor Function"'. I have no opinion about whether we need get another abbreviation (RFCF? RFCEF?) there or what it should be. > If so, is it the collective combination of the RSWG, RSAB, > RPC, RSCE, and IETF LLC when dispatching the responsibilities > specified in this document? Yes, I think so but, if you were listing them, I'd say "including" so as the make the term (and the document) a bit more future-proof. best, john
- [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call revie… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] I18ndir last call review… Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] I18ndir last call review… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] I18ndir last call review… Jay Daley
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] [IAB] I18ndir last call review… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Peter Saint-Andre
- [Rfced-future] Boilerplate nit [I18ndir last call… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Boilerplate nit [I18ndir last … Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [I18ndir] I18ndir last ca… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Martin J. Dürst
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… John C Klensin
- Re: [Rfced-future] Fwd: [IAB] I18ndir last call r… John C Klensin