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Re: [rtcweb] H.261

"Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)" <mzanaty@cisco.com> Sat, 23 November 2013 04:45 UTC

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From: "Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)" <mzanaty@cisco.com>
To: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>, Ron <ron@debian.org>, "rtcweb@ietf.org" <rtcweb@ietf.org>
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 04:45:26 +0000
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All major distros including Debian already include x264, ffmpeg, etc.
http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/x264

Those packages offer no patent license at all. What is the perceived
unique risk of Cisco¹s H.264? It attempts to license the patents legally
instead of leaving users bare naked. If the FOSS community sees this as
worse than the current situation, and feels its users are better off
naked, it would be good to understand why.

Mo


On 11/22/13, 8:36 PM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

On 11/22/13 18:35, Ron wrote:
> The whole point of many distros is to supply binaries, often built
> many times for many different system architectures.

And the overwhelming majority of these do so by including a list of
repositories from which the binaries can be downloaded.

I'm 100% confident that we could convince Cisco to serve up RPMs, DPKGs,
and whatever else is needed for these distros, targeting whatever
platforms are required. Now, whether we can get the distro maintainers
to add a single line to their list of repos -- because that's all it
would take -- is a different issue. But at that point, it's just a
matter of the distro maintainers being intransigent rather than any real
technical or legal barrier.

/a
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