Re: [rtcweb] H.261

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 27 November 2013 03:30 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com>
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On Nov 22, 2013, at 6:36 PM, Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote:

> On 11/22/13 18:35, Ron wrote:
>> The whole point of many distros is to supply binaries, often built
>> many times for many different system architectures.
> 
> And the overwhelming majority of these do so by including a list of repositories from which the binaries can be downloaded.
> 
> I'm 100% confident that we could convince Cisco to serve up RPMs, DPKGs, and whatever else is needed for these distros, targeting whatever platforms are required. Now, whether we can get the distro maintainers to add a single line to their list of repos -- because that's all it would take -- is a different issue. But at that point, it's just a matter of the distro maintainers being intransigent rather than any real technical or legal barrier.


+1 adam and to add a bit more … and also at the same time making sure the source is available so people can compute their own signatures and verify the binary matches the open source and the open source does not contain any malware. 

For distributions that distribute source like debian, they can just keep doing what they are doing now in distributing the source. They can distribute openh264 or x264 or both depending on what is needed and what licenses they like. For the same reason they can currently distribute x264, they can distribute the BSD source.