Re: [rtcweb] Opinions are fine, bypassing a vote is not (was: H.261)

Ron <> Sat, 23 November 2013 19:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Opinions are fine, bypassing a vote is not (was: H.261)
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On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 06:59:14AM -0800, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> I would like to push back on this a bit. Say that we had general consensus
> that Theora was strictly better than H.261.

Do you think that such a consensus might actually exist?

It seems fairly obvious to me that Theora would be a better choice than
H.261, but I haven't seen any indication that it wouldn't be subject to
exactly the same FUD that VP8 has.  Is my impression wrong about that?

If it's not, then H.261 _does_ have the advantage of its IPR and licencing
situation being far less controversial - dare I say near to irrefutable?

I'd be willing to entertain a consensus call on the idea that Theora was
considered _strictly_ better than H.261 here.  And happy to be proven
wrong in this case.

> I'm already pretty sad about all the options


> and I don't think it's bad to winnow the field if there is near-unanimity
> on something....

I agree.  I'm likewise disappointed that your repeated hints about the
troubles of voting for a field filled with many questionable options
seems to have been lost in the noise.