Re: [spfbis] WGLC: draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis-14

[Scott Kitterman <[e-mail]>]

On Monday, April 22, 2013 10:12:36 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote:
> On Sun 21/Apr/2013 16:29:05 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > Alessandro Vesely <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>> 10.1.2. Administrator's Considerations
> >>>> [...]
> >> 
> >> Perhaps:
> >>  Domain names can refer to both individual hosts or mail domains.
> >>  Albeit "HELO" identities happen to be individual hosts more frequently
> >>  than "MAIL FROM", either can be used to form an email address, and
> >>  "HELO" can be the only identity available.  A standard SPF record
> >>
> >>  for an individual host that is involved in mail sending is:
> >>?
> >>
> > Generally v=spf1 a -all works. One can also specify the IP address
> > directly with ip4/ip6.  I don't see a need to add text about this.
> 
> Yeah, no doubt about the record content.  The paragraph quoted from my
> previous message was meant to e a possible replacement for:

Sorry about that.  That's what I get  for not looking in the draft for 
context, I didn't realize you were quoting.

>  The hostname is generally the identity used in the 5321.HELO/.EHLO
>  command.  In the case of messages with a null 5321.MailFrom, this is
>  used as the domain for 5321.MailFrom SPF checks, in addition to being
>  used in 5321.HELO/.EHLO based SPF checks.  The standard SPF record
>  for an individual host that is involved in mail processing is:
> 
> At least, for uniformity with the rest of the document, replacement of
> the terms defined in Sections 1.1.3 and 1.1.4 ought to be done.  The
> term "hostname" is used once more in the I-D, and I propose a
> replacement it in order to make the text smoother in Section 10.1.2.
> 
> Please do what you think is better.  Thank you for editing.

I think hostname is sufficiently standard that it's OK to use there and 
appropriate because we're generally referring to the name of and individual 
host and not a domain that may have multiple hosts.  

Any other opinions?

Scott K
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