Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed

Alexandre PETRESCU <alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> Wed, 10 November 2021 14:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed
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Le 10/11/2021 à 13:45, Petr Špaček a écrit :
> On 10. 11. 21 11:49, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:
>> A Plenary is where all go, not just 30%.  In my humble oppinion.
> 
> Be careful with "all", please. E.g. I'm a IETF attendee since ~ IETF 99 
> and I can count number of plenaries I attended on fingers of one hand.
> 
> Please not speculate without hard data (which are coming, if I 
> understand Mirja's follow-up e-mail in this thread).

Yes, if the data of attending the plenary shows that most times 80% of
registered attendants went to the Plenary then Plenary be it.


> As a second data point (obviously anecdotal):
> I'm heads-down in DNS stuff and don't follow internal IETF policies or 
> shmoo discussions, and still I had no problem finding out about Plenary 
> being a week earlier. In fact I remember seeing the information at least 
> three times - despite me ignoring plenary on purpose:
> 
> - it's in plain sight on the IETF agenda page
> - announced on announce list
> - also exported as iCalendar and thus displayed in my calendar
> 
> To conclude this anecdote, the Plenary timing was not perceived as a 
> surprise by a random person who's IETF involvement is very light. (Again 
> as counterpoint of "all" and synonyms.)

YEs, it makes me want to be like you: keep up to date with the IETF
agenda page, and the IETF announce list.

But I dont subscribe to the IETF list, which is my way of your not
attending the Plenary.

If Plenary does not mean 'all', then maybe there should be another name
for it, like 'Halfary'? (half full).  'Partially'?

Alex