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Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed

Marc Petit-Huguenin <marc@petit-huguenin.org> Wed, 10 November 2021 14:24 UTC

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Subject: Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed
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On 11/10/21 06:18, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:
> 
> Le 10/11/2021 à 13:45, Petr Špaček a écrit :
>> On 10. 11. 21 11:49, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:
>>> A Plenary is where all go, not just 30%.  In my humble oppinion.
>>
>> Be careful with "all", please. E.g. I'm a IETF attendee since ~ IETF 99 and I can count number of plenaries I attended on fingers of one hand.
>>
>> Please not speculate without hard data (which are coming, if I understand Mirja's follow-up e-mail in this thread).
> 
> Yes, if the data of attending the plenary shows that most times 80% of
> registered attendants went to the Plenary then Plenary be it.
> 
> 
>> As a second data point (obviously anecdotal):
>> I'm heads-down in DNS stuff and don't follow internal IETF policies or shmoo discussions, and still I had no problem finding out about Plenary being a week earlier. In fact I remember seeing the information at least three times - despite me ignoring plenary on purpose:
>>
>> - it's in plain sight on the IETF agenda page
>> - announced on announce list
>> - also exported as iCalendar and thus displayed in my calendar
>>
>> To conclude this anecdote, the Plenary timing was not perceived as a surprise by a random person who's IETF involvement is very light. (Again as counterpoint of "all" and synonyms.)
> 
> YEs, it makes me want to be like you: keep up to date with the IETF
> agenda page, and the IETF announce list.
> 
> But I dont subscribe to the IETF list, which is my way of your not
> attending the Plenary.

The IETF-announce list, not the IETF list, is all you need to subscribe to be aware of the activities.

In fact I would redefine IETF membership as "subscribed to at least the ietf-announce list" instead of "subscribed to at least one IETF mailing-list".

> 
> If Plenary does not mean 'all', then maybe there should be another name
> for it, like 'Halfary'? (half full).  'Partially'?
> 
> Alex
> 


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