Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed

John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Tue, 09 November 2021 19:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed
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--On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 11:30 -0800 Lixia Zhang
<lixia@cs.ucla.edu> wrote:

> 
>> On Nov 9, 2021, at 11:16 AM, Henk Birkholz
>> <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mirja,
>> 
>> I was aware of the scheduled plenary, but as I can dedicate
>> only one week of full (schedule) attention to an IETF
>> meeting, there was a good chance that I was blocked - and to
>> no big surprise there was a blocker.
>> 
>> My assumption is that some people simply can only carve one
>> week out of their calendar (not including chair's duty that
>> on my part already suffer immensely due to time constraints
>> in our current purely online epoch).
>> 
>> So, in essence... no. This does not seem to work (or best
>> case scenario only based on pure chance).
> 
> + 1

I was not surprised and did manage to make it, but tend to agree
with Lixia's and Henk's conclusion: I can reliably carve a week
out of my schedule and attend almost any non-conflicting session
then.  That is more reliable for a f2f meeting I'm attending
that an online one, but I can generally prioritize time for an
online one in a blocked-out week.   For longer windows or
meetings outside that window, availably is going to be a matter
of choices of time and considerable, as Henk puts it, pure
chance.

And, fwiw, as to any argument equivalent to "no problem, you can
just watch the video", that would, to me, could also be an
argument for eliminating plenaries entirely while we are
all-online: people could read the reports and, with a bit of
scheduling and organizing, we could have any questions and
answers by email and it might be equally efficient.

best,
   john