Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gather.town (was: Re: HotRFC Gather followup)
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 08 November 2021 15:22 UTC
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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2021 09:21:04 -0600
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To: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gather.town (was: Re: HotRFC Gather followup)
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I wanted to follow up on one point Toerless mentioned. On Sun, Nov 7, 2021 at 3:46 PM Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > Yes, HotRFC area is nice, but i think we should want to give good guidance > also to any WG related discussions in gather.town. Mine is this: > When we started HotRFC ("request for conversations"), the goal was to allow literally anyone with an Internet-related idea to get in front of the IETF community at the beginning of the IETF meeting week, so that people had the full IETF meeting to chase the presenters down. We were thinking that many of these would be ideas that weren't baked enough to request a BOF, or propose to a WG, so the reason to give a 4-minute talk was to find other people who cated, and were willing to help you develop your ideas further (the abbreviation could have just as well been "Request for Collaborators"), and tell them how to find you (could be email, could be a side meeting, could be something else). Aaron (and the IESG sponsors) haven't run a vetting function for HotRFC slots, so people have also spoken, saying "I'm going to be presenting this new thing in this working group/research group meeting, so if you care, you probably want to come and participate there". At least that was the expectation in 2018. *Now that we are heavily meeting remotely, and are likely to be in hybrid meetings for the foreseeable future, *it's probably worth thinking about how people find out about new topics that have moved beyond "half-baked idea I wrote on a napkin and sent slides to Aaron". If you're already on the right mailing lists, you'd probably know about many of these things, but that doesn't get you the kind of early cross-area awareness that we think makes the IETF different from other standards organizations. And I mean cross-area awareness, not cross-area review. Does that make sense? Best, Spencer > I would also recommend all WG/RG chairs to make themselves available after > their > sessions in gather.town (as their time permits). Even if they themselves > may be busy in another session, a chairs (away) avatar is always a good > place to seek > out followup discussions in gather.town after a WG/RG meeting. Same as > what happens > in in-person IETFs after a WG meeting. > > It is extremely easy to locate a person in gather.town: > - clock on participants > - find your person (e.g.: wg chair). > - click on that person, click on follow > - now your avatar will by itself walk to that persons avatar > - click again on the person and click on "Stop following" > > Cheers > Toerless > > On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 05:48:20AM -0700, Marc Petit-Huguenin wrote: > > I liked be able to talk to the author without the stress of having to > formulate my questions right after the presentation, so Gather was nice for > that, and I would suggest to continue using the same format after fixing > the slowdown when a lot of people were on the floor. I would also prefer > to watch the presentations directly on Gather rather than on YouTube, after > the problem of hearing other conversations is fixed. A way to show that > someone is interacting with video and other Gather objects would be nice > too. > > > > On 11/6/21 05:38, Deb Cooley wrote: > > > I liked the YouTube idea for the actual presentation. I could watch it > > > more than once to understand the ideas better. > > > > > > The Gather room part for discussion didn't work for me. I'd suggest > going > > > back to Meetecho for the discussion part. It could be a two step > process - > > > watch the YouTube videos 'session', then a Meetecho session to discuss. > > > > > > Deb Cooley > > > decoole@nsa.gov > > > > > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 8:37 AM Alexandre PETRESCU < > alexandre.petrescu@cea.fr> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > For the 'what should change' part - I suggest to make it work ok > fully on > > > > IPv6. Last time I checked it worked only partially on IPv6: the > sound > > > > quality was worse on IPv6, some buttons on left could not be clicked > on > > > > IPv6, etc. > > > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Alexandre Petrescualexandre.petrescu@cea.fr, tél 0169089223 > > > > > > > > Le 03/11/2021 à 17:33, Aaron Falk a écrit : > > > > > > > > An update & 2 questions: > > > > > > > > *Update:* The secretariat confirms that the HotRFC “rooms” will > remain up > > > > and available for your use through the end of the IETF next week. > > > > > > > > *Questions:* > > > > > > > > 1. Should we use Gather to do this again? > > > > 2. If so, what should we change? > > > > > > > > --aaron > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Marc Petit-Huguenin > > Email: marc@petit-huguenin.org > > Blog: https://marc.petit-huguenin.org > > Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petithug > > > > > > -- > > 112attendees mailing list > > 112attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/112attendees > > > -- > --- > tte@cs.fau.de > > -- > 112attendees mailing list > 112attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/112attendees >
- [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Aaron Falk
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Alexander Clemm
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Deb Cooley
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Lixia Zhang
- [112attendees] To Slack or not... Re: HotRFC Gath… Toerless Eckert
- [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gather.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Alexa Morris
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Fred Baker
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Fred Baker
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… John C Klensin
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Ted Lemon
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Christian Huitema
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Mark Andrews
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Theresa Enghardt
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Michael Richardson