Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gather.town (was: Re: HotRFC Gather followup)
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Tue, 09 November 2021 14:28 UTC
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Subject: Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gather.town (was: Re: HotRFC Gather followup)
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assuming gather can not cut it for many reasons, some of which you enumerated well, what would work? back in the day, lisa dusseault tried to get us to use second life. it overcomes a lot of your and my issues with gather. but, imiho, the barrier to entry (what it takes for an individual to get in and make it useful) is too high. and it has not grown in years. i speak from experience, having helped my wife produce ballet in second life for over 15 years. otoh, that one can produce ballet there says a lot for it. a numbr of academic/research meetings i attend(ed) use zoom with side rooms. being able to go into side rooms is critical, imiho. due to unforseen circumstances, we have all learned to use zoom; i.e. the baarrier to entry has already been overcome. and it overcomes many of the social issues you raise; we get to see each others' faces. no, you can not make cute stage settings, but it sure has proven that folk can get work done. [ don't get me started about teams; and i have not used goog's product enough to have a useful opinion. ] i use jitsi, like it, run a server, etc. but it does not have side rooms. barrier to entry negligible as everyone's zoom exterience transfers directly. can others tell us about experience with environments which could meet our needs? randy
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- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Alexander Clemm
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Deb Cooley
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Lixia Zhang
- [112attendees] To Slack or not... Re: HotRFC Gath… Toerless Eckert
- [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gather.… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Alexa Morris
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Fred Baker
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Fred Baker
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… John C Klensin
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Alexandre PETRESCU
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Ted Lemon
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Christian Huitema
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Mark Andrews
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Randy Bush
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Theresa Enghardt
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [112attendees] WG followup discussions in gat… Michael Richardson