[112attendees] To Slack or not... Re: HotRFC Gather followup

Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Sun, 07 November 2021 21:29 UTC

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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
To: Lixia Zhang <lixia@cs.ucla.edu>
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Subject: [112attendees] To Slack or not... Re: HotRFC Gather followup
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On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 09:24:49AM -0700, Lixia Zhang wrote:
> ii) regarding organizing conversations around topics and keeping the conversation available and ongoing after the events: academic conferences (the few I know) have adopted Slack, which offers features of structured conversations by topics, supporting inclusion of URLs/pdf files, and a number of other stuff. We used it last week for annual NDN Community Meeting, worked out really well -- lots questions/comments on Slack while presentations ongoing, session chairs raised the questions from Slack if (mostly likely) presenters couldn't read while presenting (and of course discussions can continue for however long people keep posting).
> Lixia

Lixia, *:

I wanted to jump to that point: IETF has ietf.slack.com, and it is being for
_some_ IETF activities, such as some of the IAB workshops.

However, when i asked around whether this is something we should promote, but i heard
IETF participants to be critical of the platform, and in my own (limited) experience,
it does not give anything that email-threads on email mailing lists would not giv either.

In fact, the way the IETF is structured, any discussions that is meant to spur work in
a WG or RG SHOULD predominantly happen on the WG/RG mailing list and only be moved to
different venues when it is clearly out of scope/interest to the WG, or if it is
of interest to the G, when there is a method to report back to the WG(mailing list),
such as via design teams.

I do admit that many email tools are quite crappy and do not necessarily offer you the
same compact scrolling view to discussion threds as slack may do, but i am sure it should
be possile to find the best tools. I for once use 30 year old text tools that allow
me to quickly catch up with IETF mailing list discussions quite quickly...

Cheers
    Toerless

> > From: 112attendees <112attendees-bounces@ietf.org <mailto:112attendees-bounces@ietf.org>> On Behalf Of Aaron Falk
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 3, 2021 9:34 AM
> > To: 112attendees@ietf.org <mailto:112attendees@ietf.org>
> > Cc: Alexa Morris <amorris@amsl.com <mailto:amorris@amsl.com>>; Liz Flynn <lflynn@amsl.com <mailto:lflynn@amsl.com>>
> > Subject: [112attendees] HotRFC Gather followup
> >  
> > An update & 2 questions:
> > 
> > Update: The secretariat confirms that the HotRFC “rooms” will remain up and available for your use through the end of the IETF next week.
> > 
> > Questions:
> > 
> > Should we use Gather to do this again?
> > If so, what should we change?
> > --aaron
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