Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those with no competitive interests?

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 20 January 2012 22:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [antitrust-policy] how does that affect those with no competitive interests?
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On 01/20/2012 09:48 PM, Jorge Contreras wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Stephen Farrell
> <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>wrote:
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>> I have no skin in the money games around the IETF these
>> days since I currently work in a University.
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> You may not have a personal financial interest, but some universities these
> days make a lot of money from their patent licensing programs,

We don't as it happens. But we do pay people to try (badly as
it turns out;-)

 > and many
> more would like to.  Also, universities can and are sued for antitrust
> violations, and there is no 'academic' immunity from these sorts of claims.

I've never heard of that. Got some examples that might be relevant
to the IETF? (Not of IPR or being sued in general, but specific to
anti-trust/competition law.)

>   Thus, your employer/university is not that different than a company in
> this regard.

University is just one kind of employer. Some people self-fund
in various ways.

My point is that this policy assumes that all participants can
in principle be anti-competition which seems like nonsense to
me.

I hate building a policy based on nonsense.

S

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>> Why can't I just ignore all this, since I'm not being
>> anti-competitive even if I do some of these supposedly
>> bad things?
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> see above
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