Re: [dnsext] need new flag bit in EDNS, "do me no favours" (DMNF)

Paul Wouters <paul@xelerance.com> Sun, 24 October 2010 21:12 UTC

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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 17:07:09 -0400
From: Paul Wouters <paul@xelerance.com>
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>
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Subject: Re: [dnsext] need new flag bit in EDNS, "do me no favours" (DMNF)
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On Sun, 24 Oct 2010, Paul Vixie wrote:

> Subject: [dnsext] need new flag bit in EDNS, "do me no favours" (DMNF)

> so this would be opt-out rather than opt-in

But would we really have a choice in the end? What about conflicting
"favours"?  What about services being withheld if I don't "opt-in"
to a certain service (say one that blocks ads based on DNS)

I have a feeling it is too late for a DMNF bit.....

Paul