Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-vixie-dns-rpz-04.txt

[ac <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 04:56:06 +0000
Evan Hunt <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 06:42:02AM +0200, ac wrote:
> > the reason why there is an ethical difference between Domain Names
> > and IP resources starts with the fact that domain names are other
> > people's actual intellectual (legal) property. There is also all
> > the other considerations, for example DNS is a question whereas
> > some other protocols are instructive, based on the answers to
> > questions.
> > 
> > IP resources (RIR) are generally not registered as intellectual
> > property and so the ethical considerations regarding IP are
> > different to that of names.
> 
> Once again, I own my resolver and I own my web browser. I want my web
> browser not to download malware. It's easier for me to configure my
> resolver not to answer bad questions than it is to prevent my browser
> from asking them. Neither "ethics" nor "intellectual property" (the
> relationship between which is not, in my opinon, anywhere near as
> obvious as it is to you) are considerations here.
> 
You are quite correct, but the minute you answer questions for other
people the entire situation changes. 

Also, you cannot simply (legally) publish your t&c as you are not mandated 
to answer for third party property owners. In much the same way as you cannot 
create a contract with someone to rob a bank. 

To rip the dam from underneath the duck: You cannot legally resolve a
non google IP number as "google.com" just because your t&c says you can
do whatever you want.

Of course, nobody can stop you (except the property owner) much the
same as it is your gun, your getaway car and your gas - when you rob a
bank. 

> If you wish to consider a physical analog, there may be a general
> principle that one should not interfere with postal mail, but this is
> challeged by the existence of the unabomber or the anthrax attacks.
> 
In your example, you still require a court order, you do not have
standing to make a decision to intervene yourself.

in DNS, it is much more subtle, it is about honesty, morality and ethics.

Andre