Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-vixie-dns-rpz-04.txt

[ac <[e-mail]>]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 07:49:59 -0500
Ted Lemon <[e-mail]> wrote:
> On Dec 20, 2016, at 1:45 AM, ac <[e-mail]> wrote:
> The point is that while you may believe that domains names are
> property, and that a DNS server administrator who doesn’t honor that
> property right is stealing, nobody here agrees with you, and by and

 domain names are, factually, intellectual property, and expire and may be renewed much like other intellectual property.

> large the courts do not agree with you either.   If you wish to
> litigate this issue, you are talking to the wrong people.   You can
> continue to harangue us, but we aren’t going to change our minds. You
> can demand that the working group not accept this work because of
> your ethical beliefs, but it’s clear that nobody agrees with you, and
> a lot of people disagree, so that’s not going to get you what you
> want.
> 
I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. 

there is nothing that I want, except maybe, to learn. I do not have any agenda, motive 
or specific objective and have nothing to lose or to gain - at all.

> I know it’s not pleasant to be ignored, and I genuinely sympathize,
> but if you continue to harangue us, you will just be wasting the
> working group’s time, and you risk a formal pr-action, which would
> remove your posting rights for some period of time.   Please stop
> before someone has to do this.
> 
I am also not a child as I already have grand children, and after 30 years on the 
Internet, I am way past the point of worrying about threats to ignore me, being 
called a troll, being ignored or being threatened by sanctions.

> Of course, the same goes for people on the other side of this
> discussion: Andre has obviously not convinced anyone; if he continues
> to post, there is no need to continue to reply.
> 
again, I am not trying to convince anyone of anything. But, I have not
read anything in any thread, about this draft, that tells me why I am
making a mistake and that my objection on ethical grounds, is invalid.

maybe, instead of thinking about me as a troll? think about me as being
ignorant and tell me why I am wrong, directly.

Oh, and saying things like domains are not intellectual property, will
not cut it, as it is not factual. 

As in: You are wrong.

Also, telling me that "the courts" do not agree with me that domains are property, is similarly incorrect.

So, do you have anything factual or positive to contribute so that if I am truly ignorant I could educate myself and improve to become a better person?

Andre