Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination

"DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" <drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Mon, 06 October 2008 22:45 UTC

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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net>, Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>
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And during the ecrit meeting I made a request that the draft was updated
to clearly separate the concepts of user, UA and so on, and I believe
that applies here as well.

I am still waiting for that revision.

Regards

Keith 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Brian Rosen
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:17 PM
> To: 'Henning Schulzrinne'; 'Hannes Tschofenig'
> Cc: 'ECRIT'
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call 
> Termination
> 
> It was defined in draft-rosen-ecrit-abpd-reqs-00.  It was:
> when on an emergency call, a caller hangs up the call before 
> the call taker is finished acquiring enough information.
> 
> Brian
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] 
> On Behalf Of Henning Schulzrinne
> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:27 PM
> To: Hannes Tschofenig
> Cc: 'ECRIT'
> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call 
> Termination
> 
> I agree with Ted's concerns. In particular, "premature call 
> termination" has never been defined precisely and many of the 
> fears are based on the old single-line physical phone model 
> which just don't apply here. Carrying forward notions that 
> apply to black phones with rotary dials just seems unhelpful. 
> In particular, the topic is strongly connected to call-back 
> and should not be treated in isolation.
> 
> Henning
> 
> On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > we had a chat with Jon on how to make some progress on the 
> subject of 
> > "Premature Call Termination" and here is the plan we came up with:
> >
> > * We delete the sentence that talks about the UAC not 
> generating a BYE 
> > request in 
> > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-05.txt
> > We progress the document through the IETF process as "planned".
> >
> > * At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on 
> > "Premature Call Termination".
> >
> > Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to 
> > incorporate the results of it into the document (even at a 
> fairly late 
> > stage of the document process). If the design team does not produce 
> > results then anything that comes out of it can be seen as 
> an extension 
> > to the Phone BCP document.
> >
> > We need members for the design team! We have already received the 
> > commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the 
> > ECRIT group. Who is interested in participating?
> >
> > Ciao
> > Hannes & Marc
> >
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