Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination

[Ted Hardie <[e-mail]>]

>
>* At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on
>"Premature Call Termination".

This seems to me to presume a fundamental requirement
and to define the terms in a way that isn't appropriate.
Can we define the deliverables, to clear this up?  For
example, could the design team reasonably determine
that call termination in SIP-based systems was fundamentally
different from the wireline and that wireline models of
what "premature" meant did not apply?  Or does this
presume the Canadian requirements as a new, global
requirement?  Or does this include some negotiation phase
requirement that didn't exist before?

>Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to incorporate
>the results of it into the document (even at a fairly late stage
>of the document process). If the design team does not produce results
>then anything that comes out of it can be seen as an extension to the
>Phone BCP document.

Any design team document that does not go through the full
IETF process can expect an appeal.  This isn't the role of design
teams--they make proposals to a working group, which then has
every opportunity to review them as it would any other input.
The same is true for IETF Last Call review.  Assuming that the
results of this can be incorporated into a document that has
already passed IESG review without updating that document
and going through the process is just not how things work.

>We need members for the design team! We have already received the
>commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the ECRIT
>group. Who is interested in participating?

Sorry, maybe I have misunderstood this totally.  How do you have volunteers
from NENA for an IETF document without having announced the need before
today?  Are you planning this as a design team to help NENA define a
requirement in its own documents?  Or is this meant to produce an
IETF document?  If a NENA document, my discussion of design teams
is off-base, and I apologize, but it would be useful to identify the target
here.
			thanks,
				Ted



>Ciao
>Hannes & Marc
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