Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination

>I believe the previous agreement was that we would get the 
>requirements drafted, and then decide whether there was 
>consensus to implement those requirements.

This is the approach. Sorry that I was imprecise. 

Please note, however, that my mail was mainly intended to find folks
with time and interest to discuss the subject. 
A design team needs folks to get the work started. 

>
>I do not see in Hannes mail any incorporation of this into the process.
>

Ciao
Hannes

>Regards
>
>Keith 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] 
>On Behalf 
>> Of Henning Schulzrinne
>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:27 PM
>> To: Hannes Tschofenig
>> Cc: 'ECRIT'
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call 
>> Termination
>> 
>> I agree with Ted's concerns. In particular, "premature call 
>> termination" has never been defined precisely and many of the fears 
>> are based on the old single-line physical phone model which 
>just don't 
>> apply here. Carrying forward notions that apply to black phones with 
>> rotary dials just seems unhelpful.
>> In particular, the topic is strongly connected to call-back 
>and should 
>> not be treated in isolation.
>> 
>> Henning
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > we had a chat with Jon on how to make some progress on the
>> subject of
>> > "Premature Call Termination" and here is the plan we came up with:
>> >
>> > * We delete the sentence that talks about the UAC not
>> generating a BYE
>> > request in
>> > 
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-05.txt
>> > We progress the document through the IETF process as "planned".
>> >
>> > * At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on 
>> > "Premature Call Termination".
>> >
>> > Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to 
>> > incorporate the results of it into the document (even at a
>> fairly late
>> > stage of the document process). If the design team does 
>not produce 
>> > results then anything that comes out of it can be seen as
>> an extension
>> > to the Phone BCP document.
>> >
>> > We need members for the design team! We have already received the 
>> > commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the 
>> > ECRIT group. Who is interested in participating?
>> >
>> > Ciao
>> > Hannes & Marc
>> >
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