Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination

["Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <[e-mail]>]

That's a good comment. That's something we should be investigate as
well.  

>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>On Behalf Of ext DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
>Sent: 07 October, 2008 01:45
>To: Brian Rosen; Henning Schulzrinne; Hannes Tschofenig
>Cc: ECRIT
>Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call 
>Termination
>
>And during the ecrit meeting I made a request that the draft 
>was updated to clearly separate the concepts of user, UA and 
>so on, and I believe that applies here as well.
>
>I am still waiting for that revision.
>
>Regards
>
>Keith 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>On Behalf 
>> Of Brian Rosen
>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 8:17 PM
>> To: 'Henning Schulzrinne'; 'Hannes Tschofenig'
>> Cc: 'ECRIT'
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call 
>> Termination
>> 
>> It was defined in draft-rosen-ecrit-abpd-reqs-00.  It was:
>> when on an emergency call, a caller hangs up the call before 
>the call 
>> taker is finished acquiring enough information.
>> 
>> Brian
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] 
>On Behalf 
>> Of Henning Schulzrinne
>> Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>> To: Hannes Tschofenig
>> Cc: 'ECRIT'
>> Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call 
>> Termination
>> 
>> I agree with Ted's concerns. In particular, "premature call 
>> termination" has never been defined precisely and many of the fears 
>> are based on the old single-line physical phone model which 
>just don't 
>> apply here. Carrying forward notions that apply to black phones with 
>> rotary dials just seems unhelpful.
>> In particular, the topic is strongly connected to call-back 
>and should 
>> not be treated in isolation.
>> 
>> Henning
>> 
>> On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>> 
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > we had a chat with Jon on how to make some progress on the
>> subject of
>> > "Premature Call Termination" and here is the plan we came up with:
>> >
>> > * We delete the sentence that talks about the UAC not
>> generating a BYE
>> > request in
>> > 
>http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-05.txt
>> > We progress the document through the IETF process as "planned".
>> >
>> > * At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on 
>> > "Premature Call Termination".
>> >
>> > Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to 
>> > incorporate the results of it into the document (even at a
>> fairly late
>> > stage of the document process). If the design team does 
>not produce 
>> > results then anything that comes out of it can be seen as
>> an extension
>> > to the Phone BCP document.
>> >
>> > We need members for the design team! We have already received the 
>> > commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the 
>> > ECRIT group. Who is interested in participating?
>> >
>> > Ciao
>> > Hannes & Marc
>> >
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