Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination
"Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com> Tue, 07 October 2008 06:35 UTC
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From: "Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <hannes.tschofenig@nsn.com>
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Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination
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I just had to give the topic a name. I selected this one since previous discussions used this term. I am happy to pick a different name for the DT. We will obviously go through the terminology first; Brian's doc is the starting point. Ciao Hannes >-----Original Message----- >From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] >On Behalf Of ext Henning Schulzrinne >Sent: 06 October, 2008 21:27 >To: Hannes Tschofenig >Cc: 'ECRIT' >Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call >Termination > >I agree with Ted's concerns. In particular, "premature call >termination" has never been defined precisely and many of the >fears are based on the old single-line physical phone model >which just don't apply here. Carrying forward notions that >apply to black phones with rotary dials just seems unhelpful. >In particular, the topic is strongly connected to call-back >and should not be treated in isolation. > >Henning > >On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> we had a chat with Jon on how to make some progress on the >subject of >> "Premature Call Termination" and here is the plan we came up with: >> >> * We delete the sentence that talks about the UAC not >generating a BYE >> request in >> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-05.txt >> We progress the document through the IETF process as "planned". >> >> * At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on >> "Premature Call Termination". >> >> Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to >> incorporate the results of it into the document (even at a >fairly late >> stage of the document process). If the design team does not produce >> results then anything that comes out of it can be seen as an >extension >> to the Phone BCP document. >> >> We need members for the design team! We have already received the >> commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the >> ECRIT group. Who is interested in participating? >> >> Ciao >> Hannes & Marc >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Ecrit mailing list >> Ecrit@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > >_______________________________________________ >Ecrit mailing list >Ecrit@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne
- [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call … Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne