Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination

[Ted Hardie <[e-mail]>]

At 12:16 PM -0700 10/6/08, Brian Rosen wrote:
>It was defined in draft-rosen-ecrit-abpd-reqs-00.

The tracker does not find that draft; it does find:

draft-rosen-ecrit-premature-disconnect-rqmts-00.txt

Is that the one you meant?

I do not believe we have WG consensus on that document;
John Hearty had comments on it, as did Keith Drage and James
Polk (at least judging by the thread "Let's make some decisions
regarding draft-rosen-ecrit-premature-disconnect-reqmts", which
is the only one discussing I find in my personal archives).  None
of those seems to have been addressed; nor have the comments
I made on the issue in Dublin.  These were minuted, and Hannes
copied the relevant minutes to the list under the title
"Premature Disconnect (feedback from the meeting)".

Is the design team, then, going to work with Brian to settle
the requirements?  Because if we don't have consensus on
the requirements, the design team seems to have a hard row
to hoe.
			regards,
				Ted



> It was:
>when on an emergency call, a caller hangs up the call before the call taker
>is finished acquiring enough information.
>
>Brian
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of
>Henning Schulzrinne
>Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 2:27 PM
>To: Hannes Tschofenig
>Cc: 'ECRIT'
>Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination
>
>I agree with Ted's concerns. In particular, "premature call
>termination" has never been defined precisely and many of the fears
>are based on the old single-line physical phone model which just don't
>apply here. Carrying forward notions that apply to black phones with
>rotary dials just seems unhelpful. In particular, the topic is
>strongly connected to call-back and should not be treated in isolation.
>
>Henning
>
>On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> we had a chat with Jon on how to make some progress on the subject
>> of "Premature Call Termination" and here is the plan we came up with:
>>
>> * We delete the sentence that talks about the UAC not generating a
>> BYE request in
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-05.txt
>> We progress the document through the IETF process as "planned".
>>
>> * At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on
>> "Premature Call Termination".
>>
>> Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to
>> incorporate the results of it into the document (even at a fairly
>> late stage
>> of the document process). If the design team does not produce
>> results then anything that comes out of it can be seen as an
>> extension to the
>> Phone BCP document.
>>
>> We need members for the design team! We have already received the
>> commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the
>> ECRIT group. Who is interested in participating?
>>
>> Ciao
>> Hannes & Marc
>>
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