Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call Termination
"DRAGE, Keith \(Keith\)" <drage@alcatel-lucent.com> Mon, 06 October 2008 22:45 UTC
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From: "DRAGE, Keith (Keith)" <drage@alcatel-lucent.com>
To: Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu>, Hannes Tschofenig <Hannes.Tschofenig@gmx.net>
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I believe the previous agreement was that we would get the requirements drafted, and then decide whether there was consensus to implement those requirements. I do not see in Hannes mail any incorporation of this into the process. Regards Keith > -----Original Message----- > From: ecrit-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:ecrit-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Henning Schulzrinne > Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 7:27 PM > To: Hannes Tschofenig > Cc: 'ECRIT' > Subject: Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call > Termination > > I agree with Ted's concerns. In particular, "premature call > termination" has never been defined precisely and many of the > fears are based on the old single-line physical phone model > which just don't apply here. Carrying forward notions that > apply to black phones with rotary dials just seems unhelpful. > In particular, the topic is strongly connected to call-back > and should not be treated in isolation. > > Henning > > On Oct 6, 2008, at 11:53 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > we had a chat with Jon on how to make some progress on the > subject of > > "Premature Call Termination" and here is the plan we came up with: > > > > * We delete the sentence that talks about the UAC not > generating a BYE > > request in > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ecrit-phonebcp-05.txt > > We progress the document through the IETF process as "planned". > > > > * At the same time we create a design team in ECRIT to work on > > "Premature Call Termination". > > > > Depending on the progress of the design team we are able to > > incorporate the results of it into the document (even at a > fairly late > > stage of the document process). If the design team does not produce > > results then anything that comes out of it can be seen as > an extension > > to the Phone BCP document. > > > > We need members for the design team! We have already received the > > commitment of folks from NENA but we also need some guys from the > > ECRIT group. Who is interested in participating? > > > > Ciao > > Hannes & Marc > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ecrit mailing list > > Ecrit@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > > _______________________________________________ > Ecrit mailing list > Ecrit@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit > _______________________________________________ Ecrit mailing list Ecrit@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ecrit
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne
- [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature Call … Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… James M. Polk
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Ted Hardie
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Marc Linsner
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Randall Gellens
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Brian Rosen
- Re: [Ecrit] IETF ECRIT Design Team on Premature C… Henning Schulzrinne