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Re: [ietf-smtp] Endless debate on IP literals

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Tue, 31 December 2019 21:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Endless debate on IP literals
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> With respect to all of the low performance IoT devices mailing out
> status reports, that's submission, not SMTP.  
...
> We definitely need to make it clear in 5321bis that submission and
> SMTP are different


+1

Hence, Item 2 of the items list that I posted.

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Dave Crocker
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