Re: [ietf-smtp] Possible cont4ibution to moving forward with RFC5321bis SMTP

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Mon, 30 December 2019 02:25 UTC

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To: John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>, ietf-smtp@ietf.org
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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Possible cont4ibution to moving forward with RFC5321bis SMTP
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On 12/29/19 8:30 PM, John Levine wrote:

>> IMO most of the spam-filtering criteria I've seen are countermeasures
>> for short-term, local, and/or ephemeral conditions. ...
> I'm guessing that the spam filtering criteria you're describing bear
> little resemblance to the stuff we talk about at places like M3AAWG
> with people who run systems that filter billions messages a day every
> day.  One of the reasons we can talk about them at M3AAWG is of course
> that the discussions there are not public.

So they're not subject to outside scrutiny.  No wonder email delivery is 
so unreliable.

Keith