Re: [ietf-smtp] Endless debate on IP literals

Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com> Wed, 01 January 2020 23:06 UTC

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From: Keith Moore <moore@network-heretics.com>
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Subject: Re: [ietf-smtp] Endless debate on IP literals
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On 1/1/20 5:52 PM, John Levine wrote:

>> p.s. I suspect ietf-smtp doesn't want to dig down into details of how
>> IoT devices should authenticate submissions - at least not just yet -
>> and such a topic might be better discussed in a working group that's
>> specifically tailored to that purpose.   For now I just want people to
>> realize that some long-held assumptions may not be universlaly valid.
> On the contrary, I'd like to understand what we can and can't expect
> them to do, and how they match up with the facilities we already have.

Ok, why don't I take a step back and try to summarize what I've seen 
about the limitations of such environments, and then we can look at how 
well existing SMTP implementations and protocol features address the 
needs of such environments.

(But not tonight, I've spent too much time on ietf-smtp today already.)

Keith