Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 20 January 2015 20:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps
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On 21/01/2015 01:51, Julian Reschke wrote:
> On 2015-01-19 02:28, Larry Masinter wrote:
>> In the APP, RAI, TSV area reconfiguration, a suggestion to consider:
>>
>> Carve out a "WEB" area which covers work that should coordinate with browsers and W3C.   Other apps (real-time or not) and
>> transport questions could be one super-group which wouldn't be as big as all three.
>>
>> In Web: HTTP, URI/URL, WebRTC
>> In non-Web: email, xmpp
>> Could go either, but better in WEB:  MIME, encodings
>>
>> The idea is to improve alignment and coordination, and get more participation.
>>
>> Larry
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> 
> +1

Well, it's a grouping that is a bit small to have an AD of its own
and overlaps with other specialisations. The traditional solution
for that would be to have a small cross-area directorate. If we're
going to loosen the boundaries of Areas, I suspect we'll need more
small directorates.

    Brian