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Re: Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps]

Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Fri, 26 December 2014 22:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: Mashing areas [Re: IETF areas re-organisation steps]
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On Dec 26, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think this is a terrible idea. It would create a very unwieldy structure,
> effectively an IESG within the IESG. It would only take about a week for the
> 5 ADs concerned to decide that they need weekly coordination meetings; after
> a month they'd discover the need for a well-defined chair for those
> meetings.

The APP, TSV and RAI ADs could do that now.   Why would the name change mean that suddenly they'd form a cabal if there hasn't already been demand to form one?   I think you overestimate the willingness of ADs to add more meetings to our already busy schedules.   And for that matter, the utility of such a move.

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