Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft
Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com> Sun, 02 December 2012 20:18 UTC
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In Section 2.1, I would add in specifically-inappropriate criteria: - Accept an I+D for the merely fact to have a more structured discussion in the WG. Regards ::as On 02/12/2012 16:47, Dave Crocker wrote: > > > On 11/28/2012 8:00 AM, Adrian Farrel wrote: >> I led the discussion in the WG Chairs lunch at IETF 78 on this topic. >> Slides at http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/group/edu/wiki/IETF78# > > > Folks, > > There is now an Internet Draft, based on Adrian's's slides, intended to > document common practice in the adoption of working group drafts: > >> Title: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft >> Status: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-crocker-id-adoption >> >> Abstract: >> The productive output of IETF working groups is documents, as >> mandated by the working group's charter. Working groups develop >> these documents based on initial input of varying levels of maturity. >> An initial working group draft might be a document already in wide >> use, or it might be a blank sheet, wholly created by the workiing >> group, or it might represent any level of maturity in between. This >> document discusses the process of creating formal working group >> drafts that are targeted for publication. > > > > Although it is not intended for a standards-track or bcp publication, it > would be helpful to have discussion that moves the document to represent > good agreement among the community. > > d/ >
- When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "IETF … George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Brian Trammell
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Adrian Farrel
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Geoff Huston
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Melinda Shore
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Randy Bush
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Adrian Farrel
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Geoff Huston
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Spencer Dawkins
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Melinda Shore
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… George, Wes
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Dave Crocker
- RE: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… SM
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Barry Leiba
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Dave Crocker
- Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Dave Crocker
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Dave Crocker
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft SM
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Randy Bush
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Randy Bush
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Randy Bush
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Arturo Servin
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft (off-top… SM
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Russ Housley
- RE: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Adrian Farrel
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Dave Crocker
- Re: Creating an IETF Working Group Draft Melinda Shore
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: When to adopt a draft as a WG doc (was RE: "I… Abdussalam Baryun