Re: A contribution to ongoing terminology work

Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com> Wed, 07 April 2021 14:01 UTC

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From: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>
Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 10:01:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: A contribution to ongoing terminology work
To: Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org>
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On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 2:34 AM Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:

>
> On 4/6/21 10:45 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
>
> There is nothing 'baseless' in pointing out that a gang of neo-NAZIs
> murdered Heather Heyer, it is a fact and there is a first degree murder
> conviction as evidence.
>
>
>   I'm sorry, but what are you talking about? First of all, "a first degree
> murder conviction" does not mean "a gang" did anything. And second of all?
> So what? What does her death have to do with anything being discussed here?
>

When members of the same group assembled in a torch lit procession a few
hours after the murder to chant 'blood and soil', and 'Jews will not
replace us', most people would consider the term 'gang' to be justified.

The IETF does not exist in a moral vacuum separate from the rest of
society. The events of the past four years have one of those consequences
and one of those consequences is the public erasure of all the symbols the
fallen regime attempted to protect: damnatio memoriae.

>