Re: [Mtgvenue] Was Brisbane a success to be repeated ?

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 26 March 2024 08:19 UTC

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Comments: In-reply-to Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> message dated "Mon, 25 Mar 2024 20:53:34 -0400."
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Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
    > Maybe that's not the IETF's job, I dunno, but it's really quite ironic that
    > the organization that actually invented the Internet hasn't solved this
    > problem yet. To be fair, I don't think we should be asking the secretariat
    > to solve it. Like, we shouldn't be saying "hey, IETF, make the hallway
    > track work online." I think that it might be useful though for us to
    > actually work on this.

I have a different take.
Having flown so far and so long,  let's make sure that the hallway track has
as high a ROI as possible.
To me, that means fewer WG session, fewer parallel tracks, shorter meetings.

That doesn't necessarily mean killing WGs, but consider that the IESG funnel
also has limited capacity, and maybe if we did fewer things in parallel, we
could increase the velocity of each item.
Or maybe documents should have appointments with the IESG, with dire
consequences if authors miss that.

    > We had a really good bar BoF about this shortly before the pandemic. We
    > didn't come anywhere near consensus. But I think it was a good discussion,
    > and I wonder if we shouldn't have more of them.

Yes.  I visited those couches last November in Prague.


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