Re: [Mtgvenue] Was Brisbane a success to be repeated ?
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Mon, 25 March 2024 22:14 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Was Brisbane a success to be repeated ?
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The asians i asked in general liked it because of much lower TZ differences. But also observed lower attendance and hence potentially lower productivity of course. I was primarily wondering if there was a formula like "we needed X more 'locals' to show up than outside of australia, that's our criteria for success". Cheers Toerless On Mon, Mar 25, 2024 at 02:16:15PM +1000, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > > Sorry if subject question was asked and answered elswhere/earlier, please > > provide pointers to summary thereof. If not: > > > Who will atually determine if Brisbane was a success to be repeted, and if so how ? > > LLC+IESG. > > > Btw: I very much enjoyed Brisbane, but i was privileged in having to fly in only > > from a location (SFO) that had a direct connection of <= 14 hours, whereas colleagues > > from further east in the Americas and of course in Europe did report total travel > > times even in excess of 30 hours. And i also managed to attach vacations to make > > the travel very much worthwhile. And i do collaborate a lot with folks from east asia, > > who of course also had a good presence. > > I travelled for 38 hours. > That included some dumb layovers in Toronto and a really long in Vancouver, > probably as a result of the Dreamliner incident that Air NZ had two weeks > ago. > The flight from Toronto to Vancouver was actually the least pleasant of the > three. > > > That's especially why i would like to understand best how much effort the IETF puts into > > deciding for this type of locations and especially how it will justify it to those for > > whom it was inacceptable due to these travel issues. > > Endless discussion. > > I think that the right people to ask are the asians. > Was the trip from Tokyo or Nanjing or India significant more pleasant for you > than when we for instance, meet in Prague or Philadelpha/Montreal? > > Clearly, it is unpleasant for Europeans and east-coastians to get to > Australia (or Bangkok). But, it's also unpleasant for Australians to get to > Montreal. > > -- > Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works > -= IPv6 IoT consulting =- *I*LIKE*TRAINS* -- --- tte@cs.fau.de
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- Re: [Mtgvenue] Was Brisbane a success to be repea… Michael Richardson
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