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Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third parties [Was Re:Proposal for H.263 baseline codec]

Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com> Tue, 10 April 2012 19:34 UTC

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From: Monty Montgomery <xiphmont@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Google VP8 Patent Grant for third parties [Was Re:Proposal for H.263 baseline codec]
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(not actually a quote):

> So if you really want me to be comfortable with implementing using h264, buy
> me an insurance policy that will indemnify me (and any other developer) for
> any costs related to defending against any future infringement claims on
> h264. Perhaps I'd even settle for a fully licensed software stack that includes such
> indemnification in its license. This wouldn't help the hardware implementer,
> much, however.

Well darn, that isn't going to fly either!

Monty
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