Re: [81attendees] sucky Delta hotel network (and bufferbloat)
Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Thu, 04 August 2011 00:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [81attendees] sucky Delta hotel network (and bufferbloat)
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> Note that QOS, useful as it is, just moves what category of service > suffers. bingo! qos is about whose/which packets to drop. i am not paid to drop packets, i am paid to deliver them. randy
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