Re: [81attendees] sucky Delta hotel network (and bufferbloat)

Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> Tue, 02 August 2011 00:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [81attendees] sucky Delta hotel network (and bufferbloat)
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On 08/01/2011 05:11 PM, JOHNSON, ALASTAIR (ALASTAIR) wrote:
> Jim Gettys wrote:
>
>> So hotels and conferences are particularly fruitful places to see 
>> Internet illnesses of all sorts.  The one exception to the conference 
>> problems I've seen is NANOG/IETF, where cluefull people have done 
>> useful classification and AQM setup and where there is lots of 
>> traffic via enterprise access points that aren't over buffered, so 
>> that even RED93 algorithms can succeed at controlling the queues.  
>> Would that someone would write up that configuration and publish it as 
>> a BCP: it would at least help other conferences and enterprises to do 
>> much better, while we sort out the home router mess which needs other 
>> AQM algorithms, as yet untested.
> Anton Kapela gave a lightning talk at NANOG38 on improving the wireless 
> performance. Available at:
> http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog38/presentations/kapela.pdf
Yes, this is exactly what I was referring to, though Anton's
configuration has been further tweaked since that date given more
experience.  It's the first time I've seen a loaded wireless network
able to deal with the latencies that VOIP requires when it's under
serious load.

I'm trying to get a hold of those configuration files so we can try to
do the same thing in the home router work Dave Taht and I are up to.

But capturing that information in a BCP, along with the rationale for
the configuration would be a great step forward for the the world.
                    - Jim