Re: [dmarc-ietf] Request to accept a new I-D into the WG work items

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 09 November 2018 09:06 UTC

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Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 04:06:02 -0500
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Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Request to accept a new I-D into the WG work items
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I dug up John's old DBOUND draft to refresh myself and it's nice and
straightforward.  I could not find if John shard the link
so here it is:

https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-levine-dbound-dns-01.txt

(hope that is OK John)

t\m


On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 8:06 PM Scott Kitterman <sklist@kitterman.com> wrote:

>
>
> On November 8, 2018 6:19:38 PM UTC, "Murray S. Kucherawy" <
> superuser@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 3:53 PM Alessandro Vesely <vesely@tana.it>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> > and maybe it can solve the "PSL problem" if we can constrain the
> >problem
> >> > space to just the DMARC issues instead of recreating the
> >> > DBOUND-solve-for-all morass.
> >>
> >> This problem is simpler than DBOUND.  Looking up text policies is
> >common
> >> to a
> >> handful of protocols.  A careful wording might make some statements
> >> reusable in
> >> general, even if the focus is kept on DMARC.
> >>
> >
> >Sure, the DMARC case is half of what DBOUND tried to tackle.  If DBOUND
> >had
> >focused just on the DMARC use case, it would've succeeded.
> >
> >If possible, we should be careful to create a solution that's
> >extensible to
> >other use cases, not exclusive of them.  Reviewing what DBOUND tried to
> >do
> >might be very instructive here.
> >
> >-MSK
>
> Independent of the current discussion about the new PSD DMARC draft, I
> think this would be a great idea.
>
> DBOUND was set up to provide, among other things, a specific input that
> DMARC needs.  The failure of that working group left DMARC with a hole in
> its design.  Operators use the Mozilla PSL as an ad hoc mechanism to fill
> that hole.
>
> If we can actually solve the problem in a useful way, then that's great
> for DMARC.  I propose we add a second work item for this piece of work,
> since it's independent of PSD DMARC.  If no one else wants to define the
> work item, I can do it.
>
> Scott K
>
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