Re: OFFTOPIC: DNSSEC groupthink versus improving DNS

Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org> Fri, 08 August 2008 03:38 UTC

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From: Mark Andrews <Mark_Andrews@isc.org>
Subject: Re: OFFTOPIC: DNSSEC groupthink versus improving DNS
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> Mark Andrews wrote:
> 
> > 	Well we could stop caching any DNS data.  That's the only
> > 	way to make it match the credit card industry model where
> > 	changes are instantly available.
> 
> Anyone have any idea how many credit card transactions per second occur?
> 
> Seems to me they are very similar in topology, so even if you only
> cached information for a small amount of time that would mitigate most
> attacks people seem to be so concerned about at present.
> 
> Since the window of opportunity for these sort of attacks would be
> greatly reduced, the cost to commit these types of attacks would greatly
> increase if not be virtually impossible to commit on any kind of scale
> worth doing, so problem solved.

	Except it wouldn't solve NXDOMAIN re-writing and other
	on-path attacks which modify the returned data such that
	it is believed.

	Mark

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