Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero IETF

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

On 05-Apr-23 12:21, Bob Hinden wrote:
> Brian,
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>> On Apr 4, 2023, at 2:42 PM, Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>> In the ideal world there'd be no presentation because everybody read the draft, one slide with open issues and then the discussion.
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> I don’t agree that there should be no presentations.

Fair enough; what I am really getting at is "I am here to make a presentation" presentations.

> Slides can be useful to focus the discussion, even if people have read and understand the drafts.   For example, a short overview and then a slide for each open issues.

Yes, but I've seen too many people who don't manage the "short" aspect.

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> Slides are also good for non-native english speakers, where reading the material helps their comprehension of what is being discussed.

If it's done well, yes, but it isn't easy to do this well.
  
> Slides can be useful, but not surprisingly can be abused.   We all seen slides that attempt to put the whole document into a single slide,  but this doesn’t mean they can’t be useful.
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> What is needed is for w.g. chairs to review slides and work with the presenters to make useful presentations.

Fully agree - but often the slide deck has been composed one day before.

    Brian

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> Bob
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>>     Brian
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>>> Additional tracks and/or longer days and/or full-length Fridays will likely be needed and the community should weigh those against their downsides for in-person and remote attendees.
>>> Lars
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