Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero IETF

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Wed, 05 April 2023 06:21 UTC

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From: Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org>
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Date: Wed, 05 Apr 2023 09:21:09 +0300
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Hi,

On 5. Apr 2023, at 00:44, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
> Understood, but over quite a few years I've sat in WG meetings where >50% of the time has been slide shows - often given at lightning speed without time to even read the slides properly. Of course, sometimes, the diagrams are helpful but that's the exception.

Please give feedback to the chairs in that case, and if they don't acknowledge the issue, raise it to the ADs?

Thanks,
Lars