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Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero IETF

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 04 April 2023 21:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero IETF
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On 04-Apr-23 18:20, Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 4. Apr 2023, at 01:14, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:
>> Or we could just start with having three f2f meetings per year, with more
>> slots for informal meetings...
> 
> I just wanted to point out that we're seeing a different push in the IESG from WG chairs, many of which want more WG session time during IETF meetings. That isn't to say that they wouldn't also want more informal time, but there is a tussle here.

Understood, but over quite a few years I've sat in WG meetings where >50% of the time has been slide shows - often given at lightning speed without time to even read the slides properly. Of course, sometimes, the diagrams are helpful but that's the exception.

In the ideal world there'd be no presentation because everybody read the draft, one slide with open issues and then the discussion.

     Brian

> 
> Additional tracks and/or longer days and/or full-length Fridays will likely be needed and the community should weigh those against their downsides for in-person and remote attendees.
> 
> Lars
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