Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF
Laurence Lundblade <lgl@island-resort.com> Tue, 04 April 2023 17:14 UTC
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My general sense is that the overall climate change solution is in big infrastructure and changing some ways us humans do things. I don’t think making IETF net zero will have much affect on the planet overall. Most protocol work we do in IETF has leverage so that it a little work we do affects millions of people. I’m personally looking for activities that have lots of leverage built-in — see where we can apply our problem solving, administrative and political energy so that it reduces carbon for millions of people. Net zero for one conference may not be an ideal goal say compared to reducing the carbon foot print of the Internet. Smaller and more energy efficient protocols like CBOR? :-). It takes energy to route each byte, right? When I think personally about doing serious work towards net zero, I want something were there’s leverage built-in so the effort gets multiplied. That seems almost necessary for the main goal of net zero for the planet. LL On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 3:43 PM Greg Wood <ghwood@staff.ietf.org <mailto:ghwood@staff.ietf.org>> wrote: Hello, Built with input from the IETF community, we now have an initial approach and tools for calculating the IETF’s carbon footprint and a strategy for carbon offsetting. For 2023, we will implement this approach with data already available and seek to further improve it for future years. A blog post provides additional information and a link to a full report is at: http://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf-next-steps/ <http://www.ietf.org/blog/towards-a-net-zero-ietf-next-steps/> We hope to explore options for improving carbon footprint calculations and to gather additional information about the community’s preferences for carbon offsetting during a side meeting during the upcoming IETF 116 meeting: Pacifico North Room G301 8:30 JST on 30 March 2023 (23:30 UTC on 29 March) https://ietf.zoom.us/j/86826219211?pwd=QjhvdkY5YmxIWi9YeE9iMzFReFh3dz09 <https://ietf.zoom.us/j/86826219211?pwd=QjhvdkY5YmxIWi9YeE9iMzFReFh3dz09> Meeting ID: 868 2621 9211 Passcode: ietfco2 Details are also available on the IETF 116 side meeting wiki: https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/116/sidemeetings <https://wiki.ietf.org/meeting/116/sidemeetings> Further discussion is also encouraged on admin-discuss@ietf.org <mailto:admin-discuss@ietf.org> mailing list (and reply-to for this email has been set to that list). Please feel free to contact me directly if I can provide additional information. -Greg – Greg Wood Director of Communications and Operations IETF Administration LLC ghwood@staff.ietf.org <mailto:ghwood@staff.ietf.org>
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… John Levine
- Next steps towards a net zero IETF Greg Wood
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Christian Huitema
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Greg Wood
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Wes Hardaker
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… John Levine
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… John C Klensin
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Richard Shockey
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Eliot Lear
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF George Michaelson
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Ross Finlayson
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Alexander Pelov
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Richard Shockey
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Bob Hinden
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Charlie Perkins
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Richard Shockey
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Christian Huitema
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Raghu Saxena
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Christian Huitema
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Daniel Migault
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Masataka Ohta
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Daniel Migault
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Masataka Ohta
- What are our next steps? Re: Next steps towards a… Eliot Lear
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Julian Reschke
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Alexander Pelov
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Masataka Ohta
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Michael McBride
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF willi uebelherr
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Andrew McConachie
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Julian Reschke
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Christian Huitema
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Fred Baker
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF touch@strayalpha.com
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Julian Reschke
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Richard Shockey
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Michael Richardson
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Andrew McConachie
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Alexander Pelov
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Christian Huitema
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Hesham ElBakoury
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF John Levine
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… John C Klensin
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF John C Klensin
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Daniel Migault
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Michael Richardson
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Lars Eggert
- Re: Next steps towards a net zero IETF Laurence Lundblade
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… John C Klensin
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Abdussalam Baryun
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Mezgani Ali
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Bob Hinden
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Lars Eggert
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Lars Eggert
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Eliot Lear
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… John C Klensin
- Re: [admin-discuss] Next steps towards a net zero… Abdussalam Baryun