Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

SM <sm@resistor.net> Sat, 29 March 2008 16:02 UTC

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 09:01:20 -0700
To: Theodore Tso <tytso@MIT.EDU>
From: SM <sm@resistor.net>
Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis
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At 07:34 29-03-2008, Theodore Tso wrote:
>So I must be missing something, probably because I deleted without
>reading closely enough one of the earlier messages on this thread.
>But please indulge me --- exactly what is the benefit of deprecating
>the "A" fallback, and/or not doing a lookup on the AAAA record if the
>MX record doesn't exist?  Is it the load on the nameservers that
>people would believe would be reduced if we didn't do this?  Is that
>really a problem?  Or is it something else?

The RFC2822bis draft does _not_ depreciate the "A" fallback.

This long thread has been mostly about the fallback to the AAAA 
record if the MX record doesn't exist.   The debate has been about 
whether IPv6 SMTP clients should use the existence of the MX record 
as a test to determine whether the host wishes to receive mail.

Regards,
-sm 

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