Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis

Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi> Sat, 29 March 2008 09:52 UTC

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Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 11:51:58 +0200
From: Pekka Savola <pekkas@netcore.fi>
To: John C Klensin <john@jck.com>
Subject: Re: Last Call: draft-klensin-rfc2821bis
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On Sat, 29 Mar 2008, John C Klensin wrote:
>> I also prefer (2) because I don't think the original "A
>> fallback" was  meant to stay there very long and we just never
>> got around to  deprecating that feature.  If you ask a random
>> sampling of postmasters  and DNS domain owners, I doubt many
>> would even remember right off the  bat that such a fallback
>> exists.
>
> Based on some small experience with email deployment and
> operations, I believe that you are wrong.  Indeed, if you asked
> a random sampling of those groups --remembering that there are a
> huge number of SMTP servers in the world, only a tiny fraction
> of which are professional operations and with an even smaller
> fraction being large-scale, carefully-managed production ones,
> you might discover that many of them had forgotten that there
> was such a thing as an MX record and how to set it up.

Point taken, but I don't believe this really applies to IPv6 yet.

...
> Certainly, one could go around this loop for months, with people
> repeating themselves in ever-louder ways, but do you really
> think that would move us forward or result in a better or
> clearer consensus?
>
> IMO, it is time to decide and move on.   Like several others, I
> think it is more important to decide than what the decision is.
> Days would be good.  Maybe a week or so is tolerable.  But
> certainly not months.

I was not precise and you misunderstood.  I was saying "timescale of 
months" because I didn't want "timescale of years". (I've been a bit 
disappointed with IETF's speed of progress lately and the latter seems 
to be the timescale we're working with in any consensus process 
whatsoever.)  Faster is fine with me if the document shepherd, editor 
and the AD manage to read the consensus and decide on the right 
approach in that time.

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Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings
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