Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal
David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org> Fri, 04 April 2008 21:18 UTC
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I'm sorry. What problem are we trying to solve again? I thought we were talking about simply removing email addresses from the blue sheets, but it seems we're talking about something entirely different. Thanks, -drc On Apr 4, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Bill Manning wrote: > > WIDE camps have done the RFID thing for several years now. > > --bill > > > On Fri, Apr 04, 2008 at 11:35:12AM -0400, Henning Schulzrinne wrote: >> The registration database for each IETF meeting already contains >> email >> addresses of all attendees, presumably a superset of the blue-sheet >> signers. >> >> More technologically-advanced conferences and trade-shows use RFID or >> (a few years ago) mag stripes to avoid deciphering handwriting. The >> per-card cost is modest and since there are a lot of repeat >> attendees, >> we all just need our IETF "frequent flyer card". We used something >> like that for speaker identification at the microphone at ACM >> Multimedia 2004; the microphone had a BlueTooth-enabled RFID reader >> that transmitted the code to a data gathering host, which then >> displayed name and affiliation on a screen. The range of the card was >> a few inches. >> >> Henning >> >> On Apr 4, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Mr Kim Sanders wrote: >> >>> - If there were a database with everyone on file . >>> - If each person were assigned a permanent identity code . >>> - If block l(i.e. disconnected) letters were required . >>> - If persons designated as having legible handwriting wrote >>> everything but >>> the signature . >>> >>> /Kim >> >> _______________________________________________ >> IETF mailing list >> IETF@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > > -- > --bill > > Opinions expressed may not even be mine by the time you read them, and > certainly don't reflect those of any other entity (legal or > otherwise). > > _______________________________________________ > IETF mailing list > IETF@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf > _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Bill Manning
- Blue Sheet Change Proposal Ray Pelletier
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Mark Andrews
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Ole Jacobsen
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Eric Burger
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Eric Rescorla
- RE: Blue Sheet Change Proposal john.loughney
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Cullen Jennings
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Rob Austein
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Alain Durand
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Samuel Weiler
- RE: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Dave Crocker
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal john.loughney
- RE: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Olaf Kolkman
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Dave Crocker
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Harald Alvestrand
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Barry Leiba
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Suresh Krishnan
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Mr Kim Sanders
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Tony Hansen
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Michael Thomas
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Dave Crocker
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Bill Manning
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Scott O. Bradner
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Eric Rescorla
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Derek Atkins
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Theodore Tso
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Iljitsch van Beijnum
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal John C Klensin
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Bill Manning
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal David Conrad
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal John C Klensin
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal John Levine
- Re: Blue sheet harvest Bill Manning
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Bill Manning
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Marshall Eubanks
- Attendee lists in proceedings [Re: Blue Sheet Cha… Brian E Carpenter
- RE: Blue sheet harvest Hadriel Kaplan
- The purpose of blue sheets [Re: Blue sheet harves… Pekka Savola
- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal John G. Scudder
- RE: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Richard Shockey
- RE: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Wes Beebee (wbeebee)
- RE: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Dean Anderson
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- Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal Dean Anderson