Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal

At Fri, 04 Apr 2008 08:57:50 -0700,
Michael Thomas wrote:
> 
> Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > At Thu,  3 Apr 2008 20:10:12 -0400 (EDT),
> > Scott O. Bradner wrote:
> >   
> >> Ole guessed
> >>     
> >>> My understanding is that the blue sheet serves mainly as a record of 
> >>> "who was in the room" which I think is largely used to plan room 
> >>> capacities for the next meeting.
> >>>       
> >> the "blue sheets" are required as part of the basic openness  
> >> process in a standards organization - there is a need to know 
> >> "who is in the room" (see RFC 2418 section 3.1 for the actual
> >> requirement)
> >>
> >> the blue sheets become part of the formal record of the standards
> >> process and can be retrieved if needed (e.g. in a lawsuit) but are not
> >> generally made available 
> >>
> >> as pointed out by Mark Andrews - email addresses can be useful in 
> >> determining the actual identity of the person who scrawled their 
> >> name on the sheet - so it is an advantage to retain them
> >>
> >> I'm trying to understand how the blue sheets contribute in any
> >> significant way to the spam problem - someone whould have to be 
> >> surreptitiously copying  them or quickly writing down the email 
> >> addresses - both could happen but do not seem to be all that 
> >> likely there are far more efficient ways to grab email addresses
> >>
> >> so, my question is "is this a problem that needs solving"?
> >>     
> >
> > The only reason I've heard is that some claim that people don't
> > write their names on the blue sheets out of concern over spam.
> >   
> This doesn't seem very reasonable to me... if you post on any public
> list -- like this one -- your likelihood for harvest is far, far higher. 
> Let's
> face it, in 2008 trying to have "private" email addresses as a spam defense
> strategy is oh so 1998.

Oh, I agree.

My only argument here would be that if people actually do this in
significant numbers that accomodating them might be easier than
educating them.

-Ekr

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