Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Fri, 04 April 2008 21:21 UTC
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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:19:52 -0400
From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
To: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>, Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>
Subject: Re: Blue Sheet Change Proposal
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--On Friday, 04 April, 2008 11:56 -0400 Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com> wrote: > Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> writes: > >> Diving straight into armchairing myself, I'll just note that >> under EU data privacy laws, it's illegal to collect personal >> info for which you have no legitimate purpose - so if we >> never use those emails for anything, we shouldn't collect >> them. > > I've used them. One time when I chaired a BOF I collected the > email addresses to personally ask if they wanted to be involved > in the mailing list. (It was done this way because the list > was not set up prior to the meeting). So, having email > addresses was very important to inform everyone in the room of > the list address. Yes. And, as a sometime BOF or WG chair, I've often asked the secretariat for copies of the blue sheets (and gotten them) to check names of spellings against the minutes, to write people asking for clarification about what they said, and to get my own sense of the profile and pattern of those participating in the meetings compared to those who were participating on the list. Some of those uses require email addresses, some don't. But the activity is, IMO, legitimate and useful enough that I'm reluctant to give up the email addresses unless someone demonstrates that there is a real problem that needs solving. I won't repeat what others have said about the presence or absence of the problem, but I'm not convinced either. john _______________________________________________ IETF mailing list IETF@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf
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